Welcome back America. You state or certainly imply,
Professor Ellis, that
there needs to be some kind of oversight.
There needs to be something that is done because these
entities have completely
unraveled and they've spun out of control
and they're basically radical left wing
indoctrination mills. And so we're raising generations of young people
who hate their family, who hate America,
who hate American is history,
who hate Israel, who are becoming racist with critical race
theory and all these other ideologies that the Marxists and
the Islamists
are pouring into their books,
into their teachings, into their lectures and seminars.
And that's going on without any
counterpoint of views.
Don't you think it's necessary that the state legislatures,
which spend the most money on these colleges and universities,
as well as the federal government,
student loans, other grants, and so forth and so on,
have an obligation, as they would with any other industry,
to ensure that the monies are spent properly,
that they aren't going to radicalism for the purpose of
undermining and destroying our own nation?
Can't Congress or these state legislatures at least make an
effort to get their hands around what's taking place?
What do you think of that?
Well, no, you're right. State legislatures is one of the
places where you might expect some activity there.
There is some activity going on in a few states,
North Carolina, Florida,
but not enough by and even in the red states
where there's large Republican majorities
like Idaho, there's not much going on there.
There ought to be a lot more going on.
But basically what people need to grasp is that money
is being given to these campuses for the purpose of
education
and that money is being taken by radicals and used
for something completely different.
So you know, they're, they're hired to do a certain
job.
They want to do a completely different job.
Well, that's that's embezzlement. I mean they're taking money on
false pretences.
What they're the job they want to do is to
complete their their project of
completely transforming the country so that it's in their image,
their radical political image. Although I mean what that would
amount to now,
God only knows because everyone knows that
Marxist countries don't work. But I think
basically the the main motive force of those campus radicals
is to break down this society.
That's their first goal. I mean,
I I don't think they know what they're they're really
trying to achieve in terms of the the end goal.
But
I I think that if state legislatures were to wake
up to the fact that something is happening that's fraudulent,
the money is being used for a purpose that it
was not given for,
then they could simply get in there,
put in new administrators. And it's easy enough for a
state legislature to say we're insisting on a new president
of the campus as a condition of continued funding.
And once that new president's in,
the legislature should lean on him and tell him that
anyone who's in a classroom,
who's using that money, the money he's paid as a
professor to do,
to do instead the work of political activism,
political recruiting for his favorite political 'cause,
that person should be taken out of that classroom.
Tenure shouldn't protect someone who's hired to do one job
but does something that that is not authorized,
that's that's that's in a sense that's not doing the
job you're paid to do.
Legislatures could easily say that.
But the problem we have,
I think, is the public attitudes are lagging behind reality.
I mean, an awful lot of people have fond memories
of their time on college campuses.
You know, they think 30 years ago they had a
wonderful time as an undergraduate at Harvard or Princeton,
and they just find it very difficult to believe
that these institutions could have deteriorated so much.
And I find even talking to Republicans sometimes somewhat people
look to me and say I I just can't believe
what you're saying to me.
And I I always respond,
well, I don't blame you for not believing it.
It is almost incredible the degree to which
these places have have gone bad,
in fact. But what we ought to do is being
more public relations on on this issue.
I mean, the public has got to be
brought up to speed. Let me make a few suggestions
here.
Number one, parents need to take a very
direct responsibility where they send their kids to school.
They're not required to send them to these schools,
no matter whether they're called Ivy League or not,
#2.
Corporations need to stop supporting these universities as well.
They have their stadiums named after them,
so forth. They need to cut off the funds #3.
It's good to see big donors cutting off their donors
to these universities.
All donors who believe in this country are to cut
off donors
donations to these universities #4.
There ought to be lawsuits brought against these universities for
the misspending and misapplication of funds
by the very students and their parents who send their
kids there.
They're not getting educated, they're getting indoctrinated.
There are a lot of things that can be done
that are not being done,
that must be done. And as you point out,
there's a particular focus by these radicals in the education
departments,
on the journalism departments, on the behavioral sciences departments,
because these are the areas that have the most influence
on the rest of the public.
Professor Ellis, I cannot thank you enough.
He's written this great book.
I don't remind you the breakdown of higher education.
I cannot encourage you strongly enough to get a copy
of this book and read his great piece in the
Wall Street Journal.
Higher Ed has become a threat to America.
Thank you, my friend. Thank you for having me.