As Donald Trump tries to slow down Vice President Harris's
momentum, he is trying something that might seem a little
far fetched.
The former president told supporters this weekend that he will,
quote, be great for women and their reproductive rights, while
his running mate, Senator JD Vance, told NBC News that
Donald Trump would veto a national abortion ban if Congress
were to pass one.
Right, the same guy who said all of this, I
put 3 great Supreme Court justices on the court and
they happened to vote in favour of killing Roe V
Wade and moving it back to the states.
This is something that everybody wanted.
You have tremendous negotiating power now with Roe V Wade,
you had none.
You had no power.
We've now given pro-life people tremendous power.
Do you have any regrets about the overturning of Roe
V Wade?
No regrets.
No, I wouldn't have regrets again.
I did something that was most people felt undoable.
For more, I want to bring in Maria Urbina, former
senior advisor to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and the
national political director of the Indivisible Project, Also with us,
former Republican Congressman David Jolly of Florida.
Maria, what was your reaction when you heard this, these
comments?
I had a very bravo reaction.
You know, like Donald Trump can hide from his record,
but there are receipts, there are timelines, there are screenshots,
right?
Like he just can't wiggle out of this.
And you heard it here.
He doesn't regret it.
Part of what we're doing at Indivisible is making sure
that more people know that Donald Trump is to blame
for the gutting of Roe.
We're doing that in Arizona.
We did it in Ohio, and we have to do
it in all these states because they just can't hide
behind a state's only policy and pretend that parties in
all of these states aren't trying to undercut women in
their rights.
Congressman, can I ask you what your action was?
Because it's one thing for Donald Trump to to the
line about, you know, it's with the states now, some
of his advisors were split on that.
But it's one thing to say that it's a whole
nother thing to make these very forceful assertions about protecting
women's reproductive care and siding with women's reproductive care when
I literally just played a couple clips and and those
are just all within the last couple of months.
Simone, I think Elizabeth Warren nailed it when she said
women aren't stupid and Donald Trump thinks they are.
His most authentic moments are dishonesty and betrayal.
And in this case, you see him betraying both his
base, but also trying to lie to the voters that
he betrayed in the 1st place on the issue of
reproductive freedom.
And he clearly is reading the polls or he at
least knows that this issue is getting him in trouble.
I believe in seven out of seven times when this
issue has been ballot tested, the advocates for reproductive freedom
largely aligned with today's democratic politics have won.
And that his position is a drag on his race.
But as Maria said, that the problem for Donald Trump
is America has the receipts.
And I think the real question is what in this
race actually matters?
Because even the the pro-life groups that he has aligned
himself with who are offended by this and rightly called
him out on this flip flop, they're not going to
move to Harris.
Are they going to not show up?
I don't know that that's the case.
I, I still think this race will be framed by
the surge and momentum and powerful candidacy of Vice President
Harris against a listless Donald Trump who has no way
to expand his base.
He will not expand his base on this issue whatsoever.
You know, Maria David makes a very important point.
This position is upsetting advocates for reproductive freedom.
It is upsetting advocates who are what they would call
pro-life anti abortion advocates.
It's literally upsetting everyone.
But I don't think that the voters that are as
upset, particularly folks who are traditionally aligned with the Republican
Party apparatuses position on this, are going to make an
about face and vote for Vice President Harris.
But what about moderate Republican women?
Do you think that this will speak to moderate Republican
women and all those ballot initiatives?
I mean, I think of Kansas.
They're not, I'm from Nebraska.
There are not enough Democrats in Kansas to pass a
ballot initiative.
But it passed.
And that means Republican voters did have to vote for
that.
But the last time it was on the ballot, two
things.
Donald Trump created this, hands down, he's got no one
to blame but himself.
But if you look at 2023, the elections of 2023,
and you look at the 2022 midterms, voters are telling
us what they think across party lines and across geographies,
battlegrounds on battlegrounds.
Voters have decisively told us since the falling of Roe
that they are not in agreement with this breach in
our rights.
And so I what, what I'm most curious about is
not will voters accept any version of this sort of
copping out that Donald Trump is doing?
I mean, what I'm eager to look at is how
much is Trump going to hurt down ballot?
How much is he going to hurt in the Arizona
one race, in the Arizona six race where a lot
of these voters, like you mentioned, do really care about
this and are going to continue to be offended by
this attack.
And you can't run away.
You can't say like leave it up to the states
because guess what, in Arizona, their version of that was
an 1864 abortion ban.
That guess what their Republican legislature tried time and time
again to maintain, to not let voters have their will
and be able to vote and enshrine this right in
their in their constitution.
And so there's just like he created this chaos.
They're scared of the polls.
They're scared of what they're seeing.
And it's obvious.
David Jolly, in the 30 seconds I have left, do
you think more women are going to specifically go to
the polls in November, given the issues that are on
the ballot and key battlegrounds all across the country?
Absolutely.
Women are going to decide this election and I think
they're going to decide it in favor of Vice President
Harris.
It is those call them moderate suburban voters, however you
want to profile them.
But the voters who have said we don't want Donald
Trump leading the country and we don't want him speaking
for our health care or for our family, Donald Trump
would sign a national abortion ban.
Women aren't stupid.
They know that they're going to vote for Vice President
Harris.