Shapiro Co founder of the Daily wire Ben, thank you
for coming on.
We appreciate it.
There's a lot of speculation that even in his first
week in office, president-elect Trump, not exactly in office, but
president-elect that we're seeing progress overseas.
OK, perhaps Hamas, I don't know, Iran, Qatar, keep trying
to kick Hamas out of Qatar.
Some talk, you know, phone calls from the Palestinian.
I'm not sure I buy it.
I mean, I think they should get ready for a
change.
But how do you see the international situation?
Have they, are they suing for peace quite yet?
Ben Shapiro Well, they certainly know there's a new sheriff
in town.
You know what the conditions will be of any agreement
that gets cut.
They know that conditions have shifted with Donald Trump, that
he is no longer running away from allies like Israel.
He's no longer trying to Curry favor with the Iranian
mullahs.
He's no longer attempting to slow walk aid to, for
example, the Israelis in the Middle East.
And when it comes to Ukraine and Russia, he's no
longer going to pour money into a stagnating quagmire.
He's going to look for a solution in an off
ramp.
And I think all parties know that.
So now President Trump is the most efficient and effective
user of peace through strength of my lifetime.
And I'm not old enough to really remember Reagan.
And the fact is that the president of the United
States has used the credible threat of use of force,
threats of tariffs, that the threat of American power to
greater effect than than any president in modern history.
Ben, you know, there's reported 3 phone calls between Prime
Minister Netanyahu and president-elect Trump.
I fervently would like to see Netanyahu just finish the
job.
I don't really care what Hamas spokesman say or don't
say.
I would like to see Israel simply finish the job
with Hamas and for that matter, with Hezbollah.
What you think?
I mean, I think that that's exactly what President Trump
is going to pursue here.
I think that what President Trump doesn't want is a
continued percolation of conflicts, particularly in which terrorists are being
preserved by American strictures on Israeli military force the way
we've seen under the terrible policy of the Biden administration.
So I think that President Trump, I'm sure is going
to want Israel to move hard, move fast, destroy the
enemies of of both Israel and the United States.
I mean, Hizbollan, Hamas for both State Department designated terrorist
groups.
And, and I think that President Trump and and Prime
Minister Netanyahu, I would assume, are on the same page
on that.
And regarding the, you know, head of the snake, Iran,
I mean, it's time to all forces out bankrupt them
again.
Stop the oil, stop the commerce, stop every bloody thing
full scale, you know, no more appeasement, full scale.
Stop all of their trading, China, Russia, whatever.
And if they don't, they'll pay the consequences.
Ben, Mr.
The president has said that that he wants to, you
know, essentially choke off the Iranian economy.
He said that when he was president, Iran was broke.
They didn't have the ability to spread terrorism all over
the region via their proxy groups.
He's exactly correct about that.
Plus, of course, the president was responsible for the Abraham
Accords.
Bringing the Saudis into the Abraham Accords will require weakening
the Iranians and making sure that they can't actually threaten
not just Israel, but Saudi Arabia.
And so I think President Trump has made very clear
and all of his foreign policy advisers have made publicly
clear exactly what American policy will be on Iran.
The time of concessions, the time of weakness is over.
The time of the strength that President Trump brings back
to the office has returned.
So full scale, just the last one for you, full
scale blanket on Iran.
Bankrupt them again.
That's right.
That's what we did in the first time, Bankrupt them
again.
That could have the impact of bringing the Saudis into
the Abraham Accords, which would be a very big deal,
would it not?
It would be the biggest deal in the Middle East
since probably the six day war for the Saudi stands
for the Abraham Accords would be transformative of the entire
Middle East.
The Abraham Accords already have been.
That would be the the capstone to President Trump's legacy
in the Middle East for sure.
Ben Shapiro, we thank you appreciate very, very much.
Hope you come back soon.