WEBVTT NOTE recognizability 0.847 NOTE language en-us 00:00:00.470 --> 00:00:05.220 ...everyone but he says a lot for joining us and for this 00:00:05.220 --> 00:00:10.210 exclusive independent travel events at my name's having coffee I'm the travel editor 00:00:10.210 --> 00:00:15.490 of the independent and I am joined by the immensely knowledgeable signing 00:00:15.490 --> 00:00:20.770 ...travel correspondent and we are...through this luncheon event to 00:00:20.770 --> 00:00:25.210 ...as quickly as we can...diligently as we can have 00:00:25.210 --> 00:00:30.110 as many of you widen very...questions as possible 00:00:30.110 --> 00:00:36.740 and...events...so it's going to be a real test of our abilities the army 00:00:36.740 --> 00:00:40.240 ...three and...if you have submitted a 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:45.020 ...question in advance...got hold of...we also have the option if you 00:00:45.020 --> 00:00:51.550 have a different question...a question to...and the q and a...screamer 00:00:51.550 --> 00:00:56.240 ...should see it says q and a quick format and type in the box we 00:00:56.240 --> 00:01:00.810 will be able to see your questions and that as well id 00:01:00.810 --> 00:01:03.920 ...advance because I can tell you right now 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:08.730 this perhaps in a way we're going to get through every single one of your questions but we're going to be 00:01:08.730 --> 00:01:12.620 a very baths and really...on the things that are imported 00:01:12.620 --> 00:01:17.600 t if a hedges the next travel traffic light update which could 00:01:17.600 --> 00:01:22.410 happen at any moment commits on and we never really know...when it's going 00:01:22.410 --> 00:01:23.240 to count absolutely. 00:01:24.620 --> 00:01:27.110 Right absolutely key to this afternoon by the way from 00:01:27.110 --> 00:01:31.120 ...fantastic new...this is the worst delayed 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:34.800 ...project anywhere in the world ever but it's an absolute 00:01:34.800 --> 00:01:39.300 ...pleasure to be here I've been traveling for the past week also around 00:01:39.300 --> 00:01:43.760 them germany really relax but of course now that I'm 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:49.430 hereready to...to the uk well in the old days...you needed was a mobile 00:01:49.430 --> 00:01:54.520 phone a possible basically you get anywhere credit card helped but now you 00:01:54.520 --> 00:01:55.640 ...all kinds of 00:01:55.640 --> 00:02:00.440 organization will be talking tree that this afternoon and I need to point out that you 00:02:00.440 --> 00:02:05.320 ...that there's a non zero chance that I may be arrested while we're here I've got a cup of 00:02:05.320 --> 00:02:09.830 tea so that I can justify having my...off but 00:02:09.830 --> 00:02:14.070 if we shall see anyway let's crack overhead if you're if you're happy yes 00:02:14.070 --> 00:02:19.220 ...very happy and please...rested because I can't do this for me and him 00:02:19.220 --> 00:02:23.680 ...now let's...off with I've seen...people ask me in advance what 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:28.630 the thing the likelihood is this...is going to go over the red lists now I 00:02:28.630 --> 00:02:33.900 ...my feelings about this but what he...signing...your questions and christina for 00:02:33.900 --> 00:02:37.270 ...us right there is exactly zero 00:02:37.270 --> 00:02:40.160 charts not complete each there's actually a 00:02:40.160 --> 00:02:45.580 ...zero point zero one percent chance because 00:02:45.580 --> 00:02:49.510 ...we seen nothing is absolutely guaranteed however 00:02:49.510 --> 00:02:53.850 it simply would make sense complexion rights across spain...full-length 00:02:53.850 --> 00:02:59.190 ...of consider that need to worry about the beach...rented extinct file 00:02:59.190 --> 00:03:03.640 very I'm delta...and in any event the hotel 00:03:03.640 --> 00:03:09.020 quarantine system which is currently set out to handle...rifles...databases 00:03:09.020 --> 00:03:13.920 like turkey egypt pakistan south africa brazil simply couldn't 00:03:13.920 --> 00:03:18.750 caved which...weekend of august bank already we...outlets but strain on 00:03:18.750 --> 00:03:23.600 the regulation it's not going to happen and the saying goes just to save questions later on 00:03:23.600 --> 00:03:29.500 full portugal fool france for creates so, 00:03:29.500 --> 00:03:35.810 ...to worry if you are in all...go to any of those prices. 00:03:35.810 --> 00:03:40.740 Excellent I mean I'm not going to disagree with you in any red assignment to carry the hotel quarantine 00:03:40.740 --> 00:03:45.230 ...it's just there's no way is that no way it's going to happen it wouldn't work 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:51.430 ...get needs...makers and who say...question I've seen on 00:03:51.430 --> 00:03:56.200 us time and time again which I think he will be intimately aware 00:03:56.200 --> 00:04:00.730 of assignment is all that still places...excepting, you know, 00:04:00.730 --> 00:04:05.630 that india...uses and can everyone went tirelessly nuts about 00:04:05.630 --> 00:04:08.510 ...is the...nowI think it is 00:04:08.510 --> 00:04:12.370 ...the questions are still coming and I blame actually a lot of 00:04:12.370 --> 00:04:17.700 what obviously the internet is full of all sorts of information and spider...knows all of 00:04:17.700 --> 00:04:22.600 ...true I'll say we seen and this...actually applies to 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:27.800 the mto the regulation spain question we've seen a number of what I would actually turn 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:31.580 ...online articles suggesting things as 00:04:31.580 --> 00:04:36.110 all his mind vaccinations difficult which by the way if you're traveling 00:04:36.110 --> 00:04:39.700 ...germany you will be quite popular if you can present a stem as 00:04:39.700 --> 00:04:41.560 ...much as you can 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:46.320 ...getting into hotels also circumstances but I've 00:04:46.320 --> 00:04:50.430 got them at the indian variant of the astros educate gap 00:04:50.430 --> 00:04:53.340 ...round my veins run very happy with it thank 00:04:53.340 --> 00:04:57.550 ...it was about thirty six hours when mulch 00:04:57.550 --> 00:05:02.660 from reasons best-known to itself...one they said right we're going to apply the rule 00:05:02.660 --> 00:05:08.010 absolutely strictly the fact that the nh which clearly is a very stringent medical 00:05:08.010 --> 00:05:12.720 regulator and would not mess around the nasa's yes fine you could create 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:15.600 ...to go wasn't relevant for them and they 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:18.740 ...only approved by the european medicines agency because of 00:05:18.740 --> 00:05:22.590 a bureaucratic foul-up I think it's fair to say 00:05:22.590 --> 00:05:25.570 ...is but I've not heard of any 00:05:25.570 --> 00:05:30.500 cases far from a couple of them people getting into...moses 00:05:30.500 --> 00:05:36.210 I've please there's enough to worry about without worrying about things which aren't going to happen? 00:05:36.210 --> 00:05:38.450 I mean that is really this is just 00:05:38.450 --> 00:05:41.360 ...general question for me actually would you recommend. 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:44.550 Guessing the actual any chess lacks 00:05:44.550 --> 00:05:49.220 ...and instead of just relying on day-and-a-half feel vaccine 00:05:49.220 --> 00:05:50.470 brief. 00:05:50.470 --> 00:05:55.730 Yes, actually and I really think this is improvement where if you're traveling particularly at 00:05:55.730 --> 00:05:59.830 the moment always have printouts of advocate now...on 00:05:59.830 --> 00:06:04.710 ...we supposed to be saving the planet but yes we are of course but this at 00:06:04.710 --> 00:06:08.860 ...document here which you can find online if you are 00:06:08.860 --> 00:06:13.970 registered with your gp in england and...you can sign up for a while I was just search online for 00:06:13.970 --> 00:06:19.480 ...nature's...and it looks is...cost and exam which I guess in 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:22.820 ...have and people are always trees to see it 00:06:22.820 --> 00:06:27.470 and certainly coming back into heathrow of course I have an absolute disaster 00:06:27.470 --> 00:06:32.450 filled in my class general case of full which I'm going to be allowed in...allowed to pull the...with not 00:06:32.450 --> 00:06:38.020 actually a run-down and obviously you should have seen the chapter seven tell your 00:06:38.020 --> 00:06:42.270 readers independent to print everything out please so 00:06:42.270 --> 00:06:46.050 otherwise say print everything out please don't be like me. 00:06:47.090 --> 00:06:49.840 Excellent advice and welcome 00:06:49.840 --> 00:06:52.930 ...vaccine exam...proud. 00:06:52.930 --> 00:06:56.440 And, I've seen a couple of questions about ac 00:06:56.440 --> 00:07:01.530 ...violence was about we get a y have failed page...on us 00:07:01.530 --> 00:07:06.500 that we haven't done the same for...all their space technique we have there but, 00:07:06.500 --> 00:07:11.390 that's the other one is d think is likely that five-day quarantine is going to start from the 00:07:11.390 --> 00:07:16.730 ...of august because I think it was put in place until that time 00:07:17.740 --> 00:07:21.880 ...we think it's going to carry on right great questions thank you very much 00:07:21.880 --> 00:07:28.480 for those the first thing is that if you are lucky enough to be 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:33.450 ...clearly any amber country any green country basically exactly the same 00:07:33.450 --> 00:07:38.450 coming back in but there is nothing reciprocal about these whatsoever 00:07:38.450 --> 00:07:42.520 initially journey starting phases of the corona virus academic it was 00:07:42.520 --> 00:07:46.100 ...pretending that we began to set up by actual travel 00:07:46.100 --> 00:07:50.340 corridors and that would be a really good and they welcome us will welcome them 00:07:50.340 --> 00:07:54.190 so on it's never been like that as, you know, helen it's entirely 00:07:55.570 --> 00:08:00.090 right what countries does the uk or trust travelers coming back from 00:08:00.090 --> 00:08:05.510 and equally important...nest onerous what does that destination 00:08:05.510 --> 00:08:08.820 country say of course greenish members like. 00:08:08.820 --> 00:08:13.870 Australia new zealand...respect aren't going to allow me in that both 00:08:13.870 --> 00:08:18.540 ...that allow you in any time soon easily makes its own decisions 00:08:18.540 --> 00:08:22.110 ...rates rough time I checked were about a third of 00:08:22.110 --> 00:08:25.260 ...case infection rates and therefore they 00:08:25.260 --> 00:08:29.440 ...the...and bright if...comes here then 00:08:29.440 --> 00:08:33.490 ...actually a much higher charts and the average population that she's going to...that, 00:08:33.490 --> 00:08:37.700 you know, events and therefore we're going...score...they 00:08:37.700 --> 00:08:43.380 ...from june through the end of july about teach I'm on 00:08:43.380 --> 00:08:48.850 the thirtieth of july they said ...to extend it to another month which is some very frustrating 00:08:48.850 --> 00:08:54.180 from other people my sense is that particular...delta 00:08:54.180 --> 00:08:59.090 ...pretty much dominant everywhere they will probably relax 00:08:59.090 --> 00:09:03.650 h but as with so many things...it might be teach arm of the thirty the 00:09:03.650 --> 00:09:09.140 focus that they decide...so, it's another reason I'm sorry to say people 00:09:09.140 --> 00:09:13.900 ...travel business is another reason for booking very late. 00:09:13.900 --> 00:09:14.630 Yes, 00:09:14.630 --> 00:09:19.050 as much as we like to think we've got a little crystal balls out of reality 00:09:19.050 --> 00:09:23.940 ...I mean we just we just...of the time we have to just the hands of the 00:09:23.940 --> 00:09:27.930 data we can match guesses the please do...travel down up 00:09:27.930 --> 00:09:33.280 ...then come to us than it is for...exactly the one thing we can absolutely confirm is 00:09:33.280 --> 00:09:37.480 the pure speculation and whatever I say it will be 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:41.670 role in some respects particularly predicting ...going 00:09:41.670 --> 00:09:48.090 to move on to the green list which by the wayI've got some money on...you missed it 00:09:48.090 --> 00:09:53.560 should have done a couple of times ago of course really strong cultural links family links 00:09:53.560 --> 00:09:58.160 we...poland great country for a holiday and getting a little chilly 00:09:58.160 --> 00:10:03.860 ...some still great opportunities in...along the...riviera and, 00:10:03.860 --> 00:10:05.270 wonderful cities of course 00:10:05.270 --> 00:10:10.180 ...motion point and...needs...we connect so I'm pretty sure 00:10:10.180 --> 00:10:15.610 that willother moves well turkey and I'm so sorry I'm jumping 00:10:15.610 --> 00:10:20.410 ...you might be asking about a...helen ... 00:10:20.410 --> 00:10:26.160 Walls as being...for a hundred-years...therefore it's going to be 00:10:27.770 --> 00:10:32.760 for the last few months anyway and is it going to get off that horrible 00:10:32.760 --> 00:10:38.720 ...on...and the only thing is fifty what... 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:41.310 It's looking at looking pretty good and 00:10:41.310 --> 00:10:46.090 in fact the embassy in london is very...and I mean it 00:10:46.090 --> 00:10:50.040 ...out-of-state say we think we've done everything we need...speech signals 00:10:50.040 --> 00:10:54.150 ...and honest and they have a better with their ash and kind 00:10:54.150 --> 00:10:58.980 ...sequence saying which I think was one of the things that down to fool I think we can trust 00:10:58.980 --> 00:11:00.960 ...of it more nowyou know, 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:05.610 is falling say I think they aggregate chance and that would be quite an exciting one 00:11:05.610 --> 00:11:08.670 holiday make...it was to happen as these 00:11:08.670 --> 00:11:14.910 ...hey nice because...which I'm really...based on 00:11:14.910 --> 00:11:18.800 ...daily and...not as not say following the science 00:11:18.800 --> 00:11:23.550 with notional play with our way well we'll we can do helen is of 00:11:23.550 --> 00:11:28.850 course repeat the session from the department of transport that they are following the 00:11:28.850 --> 00:11:31.850 ...on every single... 00:11:31.850 --> 00:11:37.020 clearly on science recommendations from the george bio security center biology 00:11:37.020 --> 00:11:42.680 department of health now they haven't fully explained a tool the 00:11:42.680 --> 00:11:47.510 ...amber lost stages that france was suddenly 00:11:47.510 --> 00:11:53.080 placed on...you'll recall that it was when we do most of europe... 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:57.990 time when suddenly amber green for those of us lucky enough to be vaccinated twice 00:11:57.990 --> 00:12:03.020 but then they said yet but proxies obviously amber class everyone's...coming back from 00:12:03.020 --> 00:12:08.260 there because of reunion on...yet but that you've left on the embellished not regulations we 00:12:08.260 --> 00:12:13.530 ...class this year it's because of because of links so that was just a 00:12:13.530 --> 00:12:16.670 weird decision and interestingly the 00:12:16.670 --> 00:12:20.690 chair accountable select committee he's actually a senior conservative back 00:12:21.860 --> 00:12:26.350 ...has asked for detailed explanations 00:12:26.350 --> 00:12:30.710 of that particular decision and really just...knocking, knocking they 00:12:32.350 --> 00:12:36.850 ...the department for transport who make these decisions department for health 00:12:36.850 --> 00:12:39.350 ...to help say, come on, 00:12:39.350 --> 00:12:42.930 you've got to give...grounds for these decisions 00:12:42.930 --> 00:12:46.820 and that sort of plays into...sense that things I 00:12:46.820 --> 00:12:52.210 think we'll get slightly easier over rule there will be some nastiness in the air traffic 00:12:52.210 --> 00:12:58.820 ...announcement do check your phony...right now so, 00:12:58.820 --> 00:13:02.980 ...positive for travel rather than negative because ultimately 00:13:02.980 --> 00:13:07.110 I probably don't want to have to try to justify a justifiable 00:13:07.110 --> 00:13:11.980 decisions that are stress it's all science that we 00:13:11.980 --> 00:13:16.680 ...all signs no politics involved whatsoever and 00:13:16.680 --> 00:13:21.180 ...in fact a couple of people have asked our needs lens 00:13:21.180 --> 00:13:26.350 and between...in between the updates every definitely had one presented an entities 00:13:26.350 --> 00:13:28.690 ...what you do you think the chances 00:13:28.690 --> 00:13:32.290 of the traffic lights changing between 00:13:32.290 --> 00:13:37.100 three-week updates because she is going to antique add-ons last day 00:13:37.100 --> 00:13:41.710 and just worried about is suddenly taking a country in between the 00:13:41.710 --> 00:13:44.670 updates guy...amber whatever 00:13:44.670 --> 00:13:50.280 else would you think about that well that could happen I mean we source last 00:13:50.280 --> 00:13:54.870 ...anybody can remember that...back and some really seven changes 00:13:54.870 --> 00:14:00.950 such as I remember one night and a belgium luxembourg some the, you know, 00:14:00.950 --> 00:14:05.730 belgians going...not...we didn't have...that stage but it's 00:14:05.730 --> 00:14:10.340 ...the most significant example was 00:14:10.340 --> 00:14:14.580 a october when denmark suddenly found itself 00:14:14.580 --> 00:14:19.510 on a really hard line amber which was being there 00:14:19.510 --> 00:14:21.430 ...you're going to self isolate so 00:14:21.430 --> 00:14:26.250 ...everybody in your house that was in response to the... 00:14:26.250 --> 00:14:32.710 scale if you remember that when apparently that was a very inch that was being 00:14:32.710 --> 00:14:37.680 ...and...back to us ...that sort of went away quite quickly and...get now 00:14:37.680 --> 00:14:42.060 ...worry a...frankly I if I were guys are going to antique I 00:14:42.060 --> 00:14:46.320 would be nothing but excited and I think the chances of that happening 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:50.860 are increasingly small I mean we've seen a horrible, 00:14:50.860 --> 00:14:55.940 horrible evacuations are in the last three weeks ago or helen 00:14:55.940 --> 00:15:01.610 ...the ...secretary ground chat sayswe can make things really smooth 00:15:01.610 --> 00:15:07.650 ...everybody this summer we get...at your shoulder all the time worry if there's going to be of 00:15:07.650 --> 00:15:12.790 a sudden change by the way if you're in mexico you got seventy eight hours to get to 00:15:12.790 --> 00:15:16.550 get...unbelievable and I think that will I 00:15:16.550 --> 00:15:22.790 ...be a thing of the past and, conspiracy theory simply don't know what 00:15:22.790 --> 00:15:28.520 if some this is a conspiracy theory that actually just quite a lot of people in government who 00:15:28.520 --> 00:15:32.930 want...to be a...travel...possible we...to the end of august they've 00:15:32.930 --> 00:15:37.270 ...kind of obliterate...holidays in turkey many holidays 00:15:37.270 --> 00:15:41.720 elsewhere...of the share uncertainty...to in that 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:47.360 ...done I think they would say...all science? 00:15:50.800 --> 00:15:55.000 Yes, you can see what people might think that considering, you know, 00:15:55.000 --> 00:15:57.020 the under the green worse...rather 00:15:57.020 --> 00:16:01.620 ...really been much and they just do whatever they like any time and say 00:16:01.620 --> 00:16:05.970 in a coincidentally as what...that we haven't set and 00:16:05.970 --> 00:16:10.470 ...us...specifics special relationship provision has 00:16:10.470 --> 00:16:13.350 ...is an email and 00:16:13.350 --> 00:16:18.330 ...people asking about creating crash has just styles and...same 00:16:18.330 --> 00:16:22.380 ...from the uk to the us will be allows saving...once 00:16:22.380 --> 00:16:28.310 ...transatlantic travel where our way we are absolutely bashful 00:16:28.310 --> 00:16:32.070 which have an obvious helping you be able to tell...I mean here's how it looks from 00:16:32.070 --> 00:16:35.980 ...okay the us does not 00:16:35.980 --> 00:16:40.900 ...international terrorism and anything like this same scale as 00:16:40.900 --> 00:16:45.400 ...southern europe arguably the uk is well needs 00:16:45.400 --> 00:16:50.270 overseas...because it's a big vast wonderful country and if the 00:16:50.270 --> 00:16:54.830 americans aren't traveling...group which they clearly not doing very large numbers at the 00:16:54.830 --> 00:16:59.540 moment then they...as well and if you're in texas you can 00:16:59.540 --> 00:17:02.160 ...new york it you're in missouri 00:17:02.160 --> 00:17:07.240 goes to california if you're in los angeles head up to alaska there's all sorts of 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:11.170 ...opportunity so they are helping to fill up the places that we 00:17:11.170 --> 00:17:15.250 would be occupying and further all and 00:17:15.250 --> 00:17:20.910 then having a really...such as florida or just have clearly a huge 00:17:20.910 --> 00:17:25.730 ...many british people and I think the white house is really taking the 00:17:25.730 --> 00:17:31.250 view of the frankly we...we've got enough problems here without opening ourselves 00:17:31.250 --> 00:17:38.190 up to pull them europeans paris...that ...eu is...that laced 00:17:38.190 --> 00:17:44.080 along with the uk so,...not seeing any files moves and what particularly 00:17:44.080 --> 00:17:48.370 made me lose hope was when in june when agile 00:17:48.370 --> 00:17:54.350 ...was...for the gseven...great is going to be some...is going to 00:17:54.350 --> 00:17:57.880 ...presence I'll get back in july or august but 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:03.310 ...early-stage we got those dreaded words task force said...a 00:18:03.310 --> 00:18:07.540 ...travel task force which is done in the past couple 00:18:07.540 --> 00:18:11.980 ...exactly nothing as far as I can tell? 00:18:11.980 --> 00:18:16.290 Well, I've been covering a...a boa 00:18:16.290 --> 00:18:20.980 forms of...maybe at september twelveth clearly it's sort of... 00:18:20.980 --> 00:18:26.380 for people coming back into the uk because as they are allowed to run 00:18:26.380 --> 00:18:30.790 ...coming to us into the uk from the us which is now and, 00:18:30.790 --> 00:18:35.230 they're vaccines are recognized unlike them canadians 00:18:35.230 --> 00:18:39.710 and british expatriates from the far east and you'll so on these 00:18:39.710 --> 00:18:44.820 vaccines are considered not sufficient to come here so americans can come 00:18:44.820 --> 00:18:49.930 in which kind of takes away some of the pain the families 00:18:49.930 --> 00:18:56.290 ...can ...experiencing...still...pretty grid sorry. 00:18:56.290 --> 00:18:58.820 Yes, and, I...that is an interesting point is 00:18:58.820 --> 00:19:02.820 ...thing that I'm hearing more and more about which is why on earth 00:19:02.820 --> 00:19:06.980 ...we got this strange...a system where for some reason us 00:19:06.980 --> 00:19:11.780 ...a vaccines that take...anywhere else 00:19:11.780 --> 00:19:16.740 even countries that we know...trust...love canada south...united 00:19:16.740 --> 00:19:22.310 ...nations why have we got this tracing...you'll vaccines tickets and given that for us 00:19:22.310 --> 00:19:27.760 ...right sorry the uk has been an absolutely outlier 00:19:27.760 --> 00:19:32.370 in so many respects so, for example, 00:19:32.370 --> 00:19:36.720 the fact the only two tests to get back into the uk 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:41.240 one before I go which I've just go by the way from... 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:45.120 They are...on the arrivals level one 00:19:45.120 --> 00:19:48.710 and they are fantastic a...me out in half an hour 00:19:48.710 --> 00:19:53.580 ...from wondering along side of the object...can you help me 00:19:53.580 --> 00:19:57.840 toogetting my fantastic negative certificate as a reference them I 00:19:57.840 --> 00:20:03.480 am qubit stage is not my attitude to life and, I've also got 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:08.520 ...appointment this as a greedy...true at half past eight at 00:20:08.520 --> 00:20:12.390 a self storage warehouse in... 00:20:12.390 --> 00:20:16.430 tomorrow because that is where I'm having my allegedly 00:20:16.430 --> 00:20:21.760 twenty-pound pcr tests I have to pre book four of them 00:20:21.760 --> 00:20:26.610 ...and...supposed to be happening there on pretty...perhaps might not go 00:20:26.610 --> 00:20:31.210 concretely according to crime but I'll find out tomorrow but I need both of those before 00:20:31.210 --> 00:20:35.970 ...even go alone to the run a check and say hello and the prescribed...having 00:20:35.970 --> 00:20:41.680 ...brings anyway to get back to your question because the uk has taken 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:44.940 such an outlier attitude and effectively with those 00:20:44.940 --> 00:20:52.220 seven changes making effectively putting the uk off-limits to the 00:20:52.220 --> 00:20:56.710 ...from those prices and it started by saying 00:20:56.710 --> 00:21:02.130 hhs only then it kind of...to ...cross the usual 00:21:02.130 --> 00:21:05.290 ...so switzerland norway iceland 00:21:05.290 --> 00:21:09.570 ...exchange joined...plus the us and, 00:21:09.570 --> 00:21:14.050 now there's a sign...complicated whereas every other country in the 00:21:14.050 --> 00:21:18.530 world says if you've got a certificate issued by a computer 00:21:18.530 --> 00:21:23.520 and health authority then we will trust you and it kind of feeds into this 00:21:23.520 --> 00:21:26.510 ...that...theory that actually 00:21:26.510 --> 00:21:31.370 ...be very happy if nobody went out all came back in and yeah, 00:21:31.370 --> 00:21:33.780 we can do without inbound tourism even though it's 00:21:33.780 --> 00:21:37.130 worse forgive me twenty eight billion pounds a year from some 00:21:37.130 --> 00:21:42.970 ...one million tourists and effectively...been written off very sad and of 00:21:42.970 --> 00:21:46.540 ...canadians british action. 00:21:46.540 --> 00:21:49.980 Various parts of the world...just a pool that they can have to self 00:21:49.980 --> 00:21:56.330 ice right because even though they been jeb is you have...they still don't count. 00:21:56.330 --> 00:21:57.470 Yep, well, 00:21:57.470 --> 00:22:02.470 sounds pretty crazy too they have to say I'm...quite worried about...so storage staying and 00:22:02.470 --> 00:22:06.280 ...ten-and-a-half that I'll be sending people out to make sure you have in traffic 00:22:07.320 --> 00:22:12.350 ...only a actually...of interesting but we've had a few people 00:22:12.350 --> 00:22:16.260 ...increasing...thank you very much and asking. 00:22:16.260 --> 00:22:18.890 Is seventy nine created that...that 00:22:18.890 --> 00:22:22.600 ...pcr tests that everyone needs to have my 00:22:22.600 --> 00:22:26.610 ...for some forget it cheaper like an antigen test 00:22:26.610 --> 00:22:31.270 and all-natural style whatever and that do we think about the real 00:22:31.270 --> 00:22:36.020 thing has been also cools from the travel industry especially if you're vaccinated d you should be 00:22:36.020 --> 00:22:39.570 drawing to do announced...the full...what are 00:22:39.570 --> 00:22:44.100 the bank of all of these things integrate question christina seven thanks very much 00:22:44.100 --> 00:22:46.660 ...all of these things will be 00:22:46.660 --> 00:22:50.880 changed will be dropped eventually the government says 00:22:50.880 --> 00:22:55.010 it's really important that I pay and I go to a shelf storage 00:22:55.010 --> 00:22:59.870 warehouse in fantasy at eight thirty tomorrow morning to have my test 00:22:59.870 --> 00:23:04.420 ...because then if it's positive they will be able to 00:23:05.460 --> 00:23:09.240 assess it they can genomic...could say and they can find out, you know, 00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:14.200 which strange german variant or have coming...now actually when 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:19.460 you look at the data about maybe five percent of positive test sipping 00:23:19.460 --> 00:23:23.730 ...sequence of...just...in that building so there it is 00:23:23.730 --> 00:23:27.770 ...medically nonsensical and furthermore I'm actually 00:23:27.770 --> 00:23:32.050 going to argue can you prefer for some forms of tighter testing 00:23:32.050 --> 00:23:35.550 ...ridiculous that I can and by the way I'm going to take 00:23:35.550 --> 00:23:38.430 joules question here which says can the pre book lateral 00:23:38.430 --> 00:23:43.710 flow test or be checking on planes is handler...tiny bit of...you need to put in your 00:23:45.510 --> 00:23:49.830 ...proxy ifand,...security but that's no problem but 00:23:49.830 --> 00:23:53.920 it is ludicrous ...I could go out with a natural 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:59.210 flow test taking my hotel room even worse give it to...who 00:23:59.210 --> 00:24:03.420 is definitely negative and he can take it for me and then I said 00:24:03.420 --> 00:24:07.500 the photograph of that to some place in the uk and they said...if you get 00:24:07.500 --> 00:24:12.440 ...on fine...what...I think from a public health forgive you 00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:16.150 won't big database from upstairs to be shoving things up your 00:24:16.150 --> 00:24:20.550 nose at india throat so that if anything is there he is 00:24:20.550 --> 00:24:25.830 going to discovery and I think that's sensible and then if you had 00:24:25.830 --> 00:24:30.770 a sensible regime for coming back into the country I think that would pick up quite a lot 00:24:30.770 --> 00:24:35.510 of problems and also the other thing which is just ludicrous is that the 00:24:35.510 --> 00:24:39.820 any chess online says fool you add qubit story and don't have a 00:24:39.820 --> 00:24:43.780 pcr test for ninety days because it might give you a false positive readings 00:24:43.780 --> 00:24:49.160 we know that you're you've got fantastic antibodies rushing everywhere and...the 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:51.390 ...albeit abroad and 00:24:51.390 --> 00:24:54.650 ...code which sorry about that but you can have to have a pcr test 00:24:54.650 --> 00:24:59.390 ...two and guess what might...come back positive and other countries 00:24:59.390 --> 00:25:03.070 ...you can't be completely out of other countries say 00:25:03.070 --> 00:25:07.960 ...effectively eighty hijacked all you've had coverage either 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:15.290 we'll do we believe that you do not present much of a...to all people frankly? 00:25:15.290 --> 00:25:18.810 Well, and, very left with the image of big dennis 00:25:18.810 --> 00:25:22.460 ...the database shoving things...days. 00:25:22.460 --> 00:25:26.170 Okay, I I'd love to take you on a journey now 00:25:26.170 --> 00:25:29.570 ...austria I believe from 00:25:29.570 --> 00:25:34.490 ...because I think this is one of the...and kind of consenting 00:25:34.490 --> 00:25:39.230 ...come out...they...now crystals expiring date... 00:25:39.230 --> 00:25:45.040 your vaccinations they...it's only valid edge up to two hundred seventy days 00:25:45.040 --> 00:25:50.620 ...the second job senses you if you will one of the early ones he got in there when 00:25:50.620 --> 00:25:54.400 ...vaccinated back in january...coming up 00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:57.660 ...well she would say, you know, 00:25:57.660 --> 00:26:01.360 ...no longer except that do we think this is something that's going 00:26:01.360 --> 00:26:05.750 to happen more and mold we...indeed based chats how does it in 00:26:05.750 --> 00:26:10.600 ...work well exactly yes you might be thinking as I was 00:26:10.600 --> 00:26:14.460 ...gaps...for a couple of years and then everything 00:26:14.460 --> 00:26:17.970 ...have calm down and then I'll...along comes 00:26:17.970 --> 00:26:22.390 austria now it's absolutely essential distress that 00:26:22.390 --> 00:26:26.770 ...nowhere...she's doing this and I'm pretty sure that by 00:26:26.770 --> 00:26:31.770 ...ski season comes around or...christmas markets in fantastic can results 00:26:31.770 --> 00:26:34.660 ...innsbruck that 00:26:34.660 --> 00:26:39.260 ...will not be the issues...we think it is at the moment, yeah, 00:26:39.260 --> 00:26:43.080 they come out and said but...everywhere else you can have two weeks 00:26:43.080 --> 00:26:47.970 three weeks before your second job of geo second chapter so that it's counting is 00:26:47.970 --> 00:26:52.960 ...protection and that's fair enough of seeing...durations ranging from 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:58.270 ... zero certainly a week up to three wait anyway that seems fair enough but 00:26:58.270 --> 00:27:04.140 they said yes two hundred seventy days three months forgive me nine months 00:27:04.140 --> 00:27:05.870 after you've had your second 00:27:05.870 --> 00:27:10.960 jab and we believe it's great powers have some will have 00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:15.800 ...and therefore...not...chill let you win without a text 00:27:15.800 --> 00:27:20.430 now it makes no mention whatsoever of all by the way if you get a 00:27:20.430 --> 00:27:25.060 boost than that we find two it's purely about the second...so even if you did have 00:27:25.060 --> 00:27:28.580 ...let's say in october and as the 00:27:28.580 --> 00:27:34.220 ...stands at the moment that would not do any good...a 00:27:34.220 --> 00:27:39.220 completely academic theoretical lower the moment because there's nobody in the world 00:27:39.220 --> 00:27:45.490 you have...second job on...out research initiative from november 00:27:45.490 --> 00:27:51.920 loss here so, therefore...play until the wholesome...I'm 00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:56.580 fairly confident that the science I hope science...good 00:27:56.580 --> 00:28:02.340 things science I think I think the science will show that actually there is some efficacy 00:28:02.340 --> 00:28:06.900 of all so that we are we are seeing a gradual decline and I think 00:28:06.900 --> 00:28:11.190 ...all...perhaps going to stop focusing on 00:28:11.190 --> 00:28:16.050 cases and start looking at hospitalizations and very sadly fatalities should 00:28:16.050 --> 00:28:19.780 ...because might well be...you know, 00:28:19.780 --> 00:28:22.530 you and on both catches. 00:28:22.530 --> 00:28:28.470 Catch colgate because...never...vaccinated that can happen and, yeah, 00:28:28.470 --> 00:28:28.950 we feel 00:28:28.950 --> 00:28:34.240 ...for a couple of daysand, but, we're all right so I think. 00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:35.550 Things will be okay but a 00:28:35.550 --> 00:28:40.570 series it really is a serious concern for lots of people ... 00:28:40.570 --> 00:28:42.390 many other things I don't 00:28:42.390 --> 00:28:46.530 think they stage you need to worry about and, 00:28:46.530 --> 00:28:50.680 if my aunt just also...things we worry about cannot just say 00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:55.080 ...please do not have a test to leave the uk there 00:28:55.080 --> 00:28:59.350 is so much nonsense online I know are very much myself 00:28:59.350 --> 00:29:04.210 ...much...online about what fifty from testing companies you 00:29:04.210 --> 00:29:09.310 ...a test to get on a plane now you flipping dealt you camera 00:29:09.310 --> 00:29:12.600 ...were very sleeping...that's fine you don't need a test to get on 00:29:12.600 --> 00:29:17.350 ...some countries will ask you for a test particularly if you're not... 00:29:17.350 --> 00:29:23.030 but most of them what and it's difficult enough navigating the 00:29:23.030 --> 00:29:27.860 ...people inventing rooms for that purpose new gate... 00:29:27.860 --> 00:29:35.240 and there we are ...very negative...just not my...right it's 00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:40.560 an absolute racket when we're being told you must have a fit tries to get with 00:29:40.560 --> 00:29:45.110 ...negative taxed absolutely not you need to check this 00:29:45.110 --> 00:29:50.100 specific runs the country are going...and she's got one here from cave and which 00:29:50.100 --> 00:29:55.290 ...just because...you're...you're a big fan of the red less-known 00:29:55.290 --> 00:29:59.510 ...correct and teaches us... 00:29:59.510 --> 00:30:04.120 revenge is country by going via and on the list country? 00:30:04.120 --> 00:30:08.330 Yes,...double jet or even if you have a double jeopardy might be less onerous 00:30:08.330 --> 00:30:11.230 during yourself isolation at home yet so 00:30:11.230 --> 00:30:15.900 all I want only want to be responsible and of course nicole and 00:30:15.900 --> 00:30:20.880 ...I am reporting that many people responsibly and 00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:25.660 legally of avoiding hotel corgi which personally I would always 00:30:25.660 --> 00:30:33.090 ...suddenly...to...they...make germany red based which is 00:30:33.090 --> 00:30:38.800 not completely of the bounds of possibility on going to...really trippy 00:30:39.990 --> 00:30:44.990 ...maybe just somewhere nice and cheap...bulgaria and I'm going to loans 00:30:44.990 --> 00:30:50.060 ...my range this stages which is perfectly legitimate what you've got a 00:30:50.060 --> 00:30:54.030 fairly...go passenger location...for the uk which 00:30:54.030 --> 00:30:59.060 only the way it's like an exam you haven't revise for...she's just mad 00:30:59.060 --> 00:31:03.030 ...three hundred of them and it still...different time you've got to be at 00:31:03.030 --> 00:31:08.240 the site in the house ten days I have not been in a... 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:13.860 this country and by the past ten days they may not today but the...and before that and, 00:31:13.860 --> 00:31:18.850 as long as you do you count things right then yes you can leave your reckless country you 00:31:18.850 --> 00:31:23.470 can go to any country that will happen very ninety coming back from somewhere like south 00:31:23.470 --> 00:31:29.410 ...then quadratic countries is what is the uk will also launch be on the 00:31:29.410 --> 00:31:34.540 ...also not well can you win but increasingly many...so, you 00:31:34.540 --> 00:31:41.170 ...come back from there and, go into the third country have a lovely holiday 00:31:41.170 --> 00:31:46.620 ...a...have already...goes pretty cheap as well and, 00:31:46.620 --> 00:31:50.430 then you just fly in from there the...bulgaria 00:31:50.430 --> 00:31:54.330 ...mentioned is that it's really cheap and the other advantage is that 00:31:54.330 --> 00:31:58.380 ...whenintegrating this country although that 00:31:58.380 --> 00:32:03.160 ...might change might go a little bit green what...is off the self-rule tomorrow 00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:08.910 ...the next day so,...and we...make sure that we meet the 00:32:08.910 --> 00:32:14.400 criteria for going in from the uk and you can event and 00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:18.590 this is...you can get into the us by flying to 00:32:18.590 --> 00:32:22.700 rick this country mexico spending two weeks edge 00:32:22.700 --> 00:32:27.120 ...uk status they go into america spend ten days that 00:32:27.120 --> 00:32:32.060 ...mexican status and then you come back here...make-up the rooms helen as, 00:32:32.060 --> 00:32:32.690 you know, 00:32:32.690 --> 00:32:38.950 you...just ripple ...just highlights hell mask the whole thing is 00:32:38.950 --> 00:32:44.270 rate and but there we go just...pathway fees to get you should you need 00:32:44.270 --> 00:32:48.500 ...and we aresort of coming up to the end of 00:32:48.500 --> 00:32:53.170 ...lovely lunch time...and...so...going to state... 00:32:53.170 --> 00:32:57.150 Choice if you've got final question...like to tackle. 00:32:57.150 --> 00:33:00.490 Speak now all threshold your...well the camera 00:33:00.490 --> 00:33:05.190 ...great to be traveling...it's a wonderful escape it reminds you 00:33:05.190 --> 00:33:08.780 of great excitement of discovering new 00:33:08.780 --> 00:33:12.930 ...reaching you'll be eating different foods and 00:33:12.930 --> 00:33:17.100 seeing sunshine out there is still a huge amount of joy 00:33:17.100 --> 00:33:21.310 to be the derived from travel of rule logic 00:33:21.310 --> 00:33:26.170 ...very much for things will get easier it's not a zero risk 00:33:26.170 --> 00:33:30.040 game and therefore if you all 00:33:30.040 --> 00:33:34.130 ...concern I mean...you know,...have a real job and, 00:33:34.130 --> 00:33:39.960 ...work from...so therefore if I suddenly do...which 00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:45.410 ...some cranking house I think that's...trade two weeks it doesn't 00:33:45.410 --> 00:33:50.080 really matter to anybody but you might have a proper job or you might be responsible for family 00:33:50.080 --> 00:33:54.970 so not zero risk but if you are prepared to tolerate some risk than 00:33:54.970 --> 00:34:00.090 ...and things as they say can engage...final point is 00:34:00.090 --> 00:34:04.020 ...just push my chest for tomorrow when I come back and 00:34:04.020 --> 00:34:10.710 just have my antigen tests to get on the...them as late as possible because 00:34:10.710 --> 00:34:14.540 ...all we know about testing rules is they can't get any worse 00:34:14.540 --> 00:34:19.230 ...only get easier and you don't have the next like so many people happy with unnecessary 00:34:19.230 --> 00:34:23.730 tests which interesting...says I think you take two terms and conditions 00:34:23.730 --> 00:34:28.500 ...refunds so anyway thank you so much and for the...anti-semite 00:34:28.500 --> 00:34:33.490 everybody your great questions and...by all the ones that you've submitted are 00:34:33.490 --> 00:34:37.190 ...look at and maybe travel question of the day in 00:34:37.190 --> 00:34:41.330 the independent I will use as many as I can...you 00:34:41.330 --> 00:34:46.310 to subscribe to the daily addition if you would like to and...forget universe I sign 00:34:46.310 --> 00:34:50.760 up and for the weekly travel email which comes out 00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:55.740 ...and every...just guys independent...code uk forward slash 00:34:55.740 --> 00:34:59.230 ...lessons and your life will be complete or 00:34:59.230 --> 00:35:03.870 ...feed it well thank you say much...time and x that knowledge 00:35:03.870 --> 00:35:06.280 ...the ways and as we say he'll be 00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:11.090 ...three to see an...questions but if your question hasn't been 00:35:11.090 --> 00:35:14.860 ...plenty of opportunities and to get in touch get 00:35:14.860 --> 00:35:20.780 advances simon very at kindly does weekly...the events of 00:35:20.780 --> 00:35:25.640 ...you can leave questions and comments any braces serious any of that as the hash 00:35:25.640 --> 00:35:29.670 that pretty much happens every thursday probably...mary given 00:35:29.670 --> 00:35:34.320 ...situation not show notional look on the at the travel as section of the 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:39.550 depended website...say bb gun not upcoming events would sign on the age of 00:35:39.550 --> 00:35:44.750 ...and that would be in the evening and it will be a full hour rightly so they'll be more 00:35:44.750 --> 00:35:50.460 time...wonderful questions so keep an eye out for that...the eight sets... 00:35:50.460 --> 00:35:55.400 at the announcement...say much for joining us have a lovely rest of your lunch break 00:35:55.400 --> 00:36:01.410 ...that's your day and they fools be happy and...