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Now to the war in Ukraine, where the discovery of hundreds of bodies

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in the region surrounding the capital Kiev is sparking. Global

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outrage. Ukrainian authorities say the bodies of more than 400

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civilians have been found in towns recently recaptured from Russian

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forces after they withdrew from the area in the town of Boucha.

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Images emerged of some people with their hands tied Will report, say

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others appear to have been shot at close range speaking on Face the

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Nation. Yesterday, Ukraine's President Zolinsky accused Russia of

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committing atrocities. Three, yeah, not see it.

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Indeed, this is genocide is not true.

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And those mission United Mission and all those the elimination of the

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whole nation great and the people we are the citizens of Ukraine. We

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have more than 100 nationalities. This is about the destruction and

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extermination of all these nationalities.

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NBC News correspondent Molly Hunter joins us now from Lavive Molly.

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These are just shocking images coming out of Boucha and other towns

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over the weekend. What can you tell us about these discoveries and

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what is Russia saying about all of this?

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Yeah, Joe and other towns I think are the operative words there. This

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is not just going to happen in Bucha, this is just where we are

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seeing it first. So we have been reporting for the last several days

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that Russian troops have had to retreat, have withdrawn, have had to

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fall back as Ukrainian troops are pushing out around the capital.

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Busha is one of those commuter towns. It's right near European. It's

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one of those suburbs on the belt around Keith, so this is what we are

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seeing. We are seeing pictures and journalists have now been inside.

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Independent journalists have now been inside. This is not information

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that we're getting from the Ukrainian Government. We have seen

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pictures. Of bodies on the street. We have seen pictures of people

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with their hands tied. Civilians who have been shot civilian cars

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which have been completely blown up and shot out and actually Jones

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Savannah. I literally just finished an interview with two people who

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came out of Boucha said they had seen this with their own eyes. They

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saw people on bicycles who had been shot civilians who were just

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laying on the ground and they said when they escaped and they tried

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to keep their eyes on the road, we literally just finished this

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interview. They were trying to keep their eyes on the road trying to

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keep their kids focused in the cars.

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They didn't look outside at all the bodies, but you heard President

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Zelensky there. He calls it genocide. We know Human Rights Watch is

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inside buccho today. They are starting their investigation. What

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happens next is this is a crime scene. So now investigators need to

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go in. No one can tamper with the bodies. No one can tamper with the

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evidence because that's the only way that then investigators can

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start to prosecute possible war crimes. So you mentioned an

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investigation and I think that leads to just the question what's

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next? I mean, we're hearing world leaders condemning Russia. Some are

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calling for. Something like further sanctions, what

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could that look like? What more can be done here and

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and what does that investigation potentially lead to?

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Yeah, in Savannah Joe, I just realized I didn't answer fully your

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question. Russia is denying this. They are saying that whole scene is

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staged, which we know is absolutely not true as far as what's next we

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know here in Europe. The EU is urgently discussing sanctions. Say

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we've heard from French President Macron that says they need to

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target Russia oil and gas much stronger. I think there will be a lot

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of discussion as we saw in the first couple rounds of sanctions. How

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far will Germany go? That's going to be a big question, but that's

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when the investigation then gets going and this may be a turning

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point. To the West, for Europe, for the US is what a lot of people

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were talking about over the weekend. Guys that after images like this

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have been shown to the world. Does this change the calculation for

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the US for NATO military intervention? But as far as the war crimes

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investigation, that's a long process and evidence needs to be

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gathered. Nothing I, I guess that that we won't see the results of

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that anytime immediately soon Molly. Well, we have you. I wanna ask

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you, you recently visited the important port city of Odessa to see

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how preparations were going for a possible Russian attack there over

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the weekend. We saw Russian missile missiles strike a fuel depot

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there. What more can you tell us about that? And are we seeing the

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start of even a wider offensive in that city in that area?

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The answer to the last question is I don't think so. When you talk to

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military experts and you talk to our own contributors who are

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watching troop movements very carefully right now in order for Odessa

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to really get into the crosshairs of a main Russian offensive. Right

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now, Russians have to free up troops from Mariupol. They have to free

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up Russian warships which are in the Sea of Azov that have to make it

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all the way back to the Black Sea, which is where Odessa is, so I

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think these are strategic smaller strikes on fuel depots. It's not

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the first strikes. That we've seen on Odessa. Certainly the most

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significant though. And look, we'll be watching. We will be keeping

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an eye on that city this week. That is the city you guys that is

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preparing since day one of the war. It looks completely different

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than levy. They are have military checkpoints at every intersection.

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There are sandbags at every building. Half this city has fled. The

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other half is digging into fight. The Navy tells us they have mined

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the famous white sand beaches so they are ready for an attack.

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Whether it comes in the air or whether it comes from the sea. But I

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think we'll still have to wait a little while longer.

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Because Russia simply doesn't have the manpower yet to move that far

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West. All right Molly hunter. Thank you so much. Powerful reporting

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on something so heartbreaking this morning.