Bye bye Biden.
Joe Biden failed the humanity.
So Muslim American community, our masses.
Yes indeed. February 27th in Michigan.
We are voting uncommitted Devil that the devil would come
and replace Joe Biden.
I will vote for the devil to reply.
Joe Biden. We're all voting uncommitted.
Yeah, we
are voting uncommitted. All right.
A lot to watch for there.
As Democrats upset with President Biden pushing for a campaign
to withhold their support in the Michigan primary,
advocates are calling for voters to choose uncommitted on the
ballot to send a message to the president about his
stance on the Israel Gaza war.
Joining us now is Democrat Michigan Congressman,
Congresswoman Debbie Dingell. Congresswoman, always appreciate when you can join
us.
Thank you very much for coming on the program.
First up, I want to play out this new sound
from Governor Whitmer,
who says she's not sure exactly what we are going
to see from this primary Listen.
Well, I'm. I'm not sure what we're going to see
on Tuesday.
There's a lot of pain all across all of these
communities
because of what's happening halfway around the world.
Now your prediction, Congresswoman, considering all that's going on.
So it's good to be with you.
I always love joining both of you.
This is what I'm going to tell you is that,
look, I lived in Dearborn for 40 years and as
the governor just said,
there are a lot of people that are hurting
and the there are two campaigns going on here.
One is called a Ban Biden and there's a group
of people that will never vote for him.
I don't think that's a significant number.
The Listen to Michigan campaign wanted to be heard
and I think that the White House is making it
clear that they're listening.
They're trying to develop
more relationships in the community and that matters.
And quite frankly, I'm going to tell you,
I am the person, The reason we are having this
presidential primary right now and have a large state where
the issues that matter in November are part of the
primary is something I've worked for for 30 years.
And I'd far rather be having this discussion right now
than October 15th.
But I'll also tell you we're a purple state,
and I mean we are purple for Republicans and Democrats.
We're going to be purple until Election Day.
And there are a lot of constituencies that have to
be turned out and Democrats know who we have to
turn out.
We're going to roll up our sleeves and we're going
to do that.
Really interesting, which is why it's important that we hear
from both sides and what we're hearing from Republicans.
This is Lisa McClain. She's making the case that this
could end up to be pretty embarrassing for the current
president there in your state.
Listen,
I think it's going to be quite an embarrassment for
the current president.
I think if I had to predict,
I think it's a good possibility that he will get
more uncommitted votes than for Joe Biden.
Your reaction to that
I do not agree with.
She is my dear friend and we've worked together in
a lot of things.
Joe Biden is going to win this election and there
will not be more votes for
I've been talking to people.
I know what's happening in the polls.
That doesn't mean you don't listen to the pain that
you are hearing expressed.
I would also say that it's going to be interesting.
Nobody's focusing on this, but how many votes does Nikki
Haley get today?
Some people are saying she could get 30 to 40.
I don't know what's going to happen,
but I'm also going to remind everybody
Michigan's a state where people vote on committed.
The last time I made this big push,
2008 or two, I can't even remember the year to
get the primary system move.
Barack Obama took his name off the ballot and 40%
of the vote was uncommitted in that primary because they
were voting for Barack Obama.
So we have a history of uncommitted votes.
You need to pay attention to it.
There's a message there. But still glad he's going to
win and this is competitive.
So that was sound of a Republican lawmaker.
This is Democrat Ro Khanna
busting the president's chops over the ceasefire.
Remember the the comments while holding an ice cream cone.
Listen,
I don't think it's a coincidence that it's on Monday
before the Michigan primary and it shows that the president
is listening to his coalition.
I mean, so is this just a reaction
by the president, considering he said that just yesterday?
I mean, James Carville's now going on the record fretting
about these uncommitted protest votes against Biden in Michigan.
He's calling it a huge problem.
This is a Democrat strategist
and and all of this is the president makes these
comments the day before the primary.
So is this just politics from the president?
So I'm going to say that it is not the
first time that the president has talked to to this
community about trying to get a
a temporary ceasefire. We need a permanent ceasefire.
I know he has had some very important conversations with
other leaders.
I myself have been talking to the White House regularly.
What he needs to do is to talk and listen
to this community.
That's what I know he's been doing.
I think he's been trying to do it more.
His people are trying to develop stronger relationships there.
I I try to translate,
but they need to be talking to the community directly
and they are hurting.
But I want you to think about if Donald Trump
had been president,
what would have happened to Gaza if Hamas had done
this attack?
And at some point when people aren't hurting and they're
not as raw,
we're going to have to be mindful.
Well, oh, definitely. Thanks. You said about it,
it'll be a test to see if a what if
scenario works with voters there.
It seems to be a
a, a real situation. We're watching it.
We've been showing the live polling up on the screen
as you've been talking there.
Congresswoman, it's a big day.
We'll see what happens. Thanks so much for joining us.
Thank you.