In an historic ruling, parents of Michigan school shooter Ethan
Crumbly will serve a minimum of 10 years behind bars
and are the first parents in the United States history
to
be convicted for their role in their child's mass shooting.
We heard from the families of the victim,
16 year old Tate, near 14 year old Hannah St.
Juliana, 17 year old Madison Baldwin,
and 17 year old Justin Schilling.
This tragedy is taking Hey
incredible toll on our family.
I request that the maximum sentence be enforced as it
will never come close to the life sentence I was
given.
We're coming up on 2 1/2 years now and I
can assure you
that the wounds are still as fresh as they were
on that tragic thing.
I am forever denied the chance to hold her or
her future children in my arms.
Gosh, Craig. Scott survived the Columbine High School shooting back
in
1999 but lost his his sister Rachel on that very
day.
And he joins us now.
Craig, thank you for joining us.
Thank you for having me.
You're welcome. I know this all takes you and your
family back.
What is your reaction to the ruling?
I think this is a dangerous precedent.
I, I, I, I, I got to speak in Oxford
and their community.
It's a wonderful community, but I think that it removes
the responsibility out of the hands of this teenager.
I speak in a lot of schools across the country
and deal with
emotional resilience a deal try to affect cultures of schools
in the students lives of inspiring kindness and resilience.
And I think this is a a a bad and
and dangerous precedent to take the blame of a of
a teenager who knew what he was doing was wrong.
He had a a dark motivation for wanting to be
infamous and now they're they're they're giving 10 to 15
years to the to the parents and it's
I think it's just a a dangerous precedent and I
think it's wrong.
Yeah. It's it's scary as a parent if you see
the signs and and clearly if you read the text
messages between this this young man and his parents.
The parents as they said in court,
ignored a lot of these signs.
Don't you think though that this will make this will
get parents attention and when their children are crying for
help they'll listen.
I think that's part of the motivation probably from
the court is is to set
you know this precedent. But again
it takes the responsibility out of this is a this
this teenager admitted in court that he lied a lot,
that he was lying. So he was lying to his
parents.
He was lying to, you know everyone around him
it it it was his ultimately it was his decision
that he was making
and he he knew what he was doing was wrong.
And so, yes, I think it will
make parents more cautious more,
but there's all kinds of people that could be opened
up to
being attacked for someone else's decisions.
And and he knew. He knew,
even at even at 15 years old,
he knew what he was doing was wrong.
You know, Craig, I remember the Columbine shooting.
I was in college and this was the first school
shooting
here in America and we've seen so many more after
that.
Were there any signs that the parents of the two
guys that killed your sister,
Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were there any signs that
their parents could have seen
There were signs there, there.
There are always, you know,
hindsight is 2020 when we look back and but the
one of the,
the mother of one of the shooters is now friends
with my family,
with my mother and she was a special education teacher,
a wonderful person and she had no idea.
You know she she saw the depression,
she saw the the mental health issues,
she saw the volatile anger issues.
But she could have never predicted what her son was
going to do.
Just like in the case with these two parents,
they did. Of course if they had any indication that
their son was going to do a shooting,
they would have never gotten him,
you know,
a gun. They were you know all of these issues
that have come up.
And so it's hindsight is 2020 and I understand the
the,
the pain of the families and I I spent time
with that community and and so but
the what this is doing going forward,
we need to be very careful.
This needs to be a very unique case.
If if anything. Yeah. Well God bless your family.
Rachel, really. She made a mark on so many people's
lives.
She was such a a beautiful Christian young lady.
And I remember when Michael W.
Smith was there at the funeral.
There's her picture. I think she would have been,
what, 40-2 years old? Now
she'd be 42. And she was
in the last moments of her life,
she was questioned about her faith,
and she stepped out of her way in a lot
of,
in a lot of ways and kindness and compassion.
And I share her story
across the country and schools to students,
and she's really become a role model to millions and
millions.
And so thank you for
for that compliment and thank you for your organization.
I know you're trying to prevent this across our country.
God bless you and your family.
Thank you. You're welcome. More Fox and Friends coming up.