Donald Trump likes to appear confident.
Here are his recent comments about winning over voters who
supported Nikki Haley in the primary.
All of those people are going to come to me
because what?
What's? First of all, what's their choice?
Biden. He's the worst president in the history of our
country.
There's never been a president so bad.
So he's incompetent. So they're all coming to me.
We see it already. They're all coming to me.
OK, Fact Check. Though Haley might be coming back to
haunt Trump.
NBC News has confirmed a Wall Street Journal report that
she's been meeting with donors and has no current plans
to endorse Donald Trump.
And we've seen what has happened in key primary states
where Haley was on the ballot even after she dropped
out.
Just this week, Nikki Haley won more than
20%, 20% of the vote in Indiana.
So it's clear that Chump will need these Haley voters
to win in November.
So joining me now is Basil's Michael,
Democratic strategist and former executive director of the New York
State Democratic Party.
And former Republican Congressman Carlos.
Well, you're still Republican. Are you
a former Florida congressman, though?
From Florida. Carlos Cabello. Carlos and Bezel.
Thank you so much for being here.
Carlos, I'm gonna start with you.
Trump needs his voters, right?
He's not. He's the presumptive GOP nominee.
It'll probably be a fatal complete,
right? So what happens with somebody like Nikki Haley?
Does she just then stand silent,
like once he becomes the actual GOP nominee?
Well, Nikki Haley has no plans,
and the reporting is there.
But I also have confirmation from people who are involved
in her finance team that she has no plans to
get behind,
at least not anytime soon.
And then Katie, you mentioned these voters.
20% wild. The primary is over.
Haley is no longer a candidate,
and people are going through the trouble of showing up
to vote against Donald Trump.
That is a problem for him.
OK. But there's. But there's
quickly, there's a difference of saying I'm not going to
endorse Donald Trump and I'm not going to vote for
Donald Trump,
right. I mean, what are you hearing about that though?
Well, I mean, sure there's some nuance there,
but if she doesn't endorse some,
I mean, that's what counts,
right? Whoever she decides to vote for,
I mean, we may or may not even find out.
But if she was a candidate for president and isn't
supporting the nominee and is still getting 20%
of the vote, that's meaningful.
That makes a difference. That could cost him the election.
We know how close these elections have been,
right? Yeah. And Basil to that point from Carlos,
right? The binding and the Trump campaigns are clearly trying
to woo these Haley voters.
That number we heard, Indiana was jaw-dropping to me,
frankly. So who do you think's doing a better job
of it so far,
though? I mean, is that 20%
that we just heard about?
Is that really just such a far off dream for
somebody like Joe Biden?
Well, you know, I think Carlos is right in that
that 20%
is important because these are voters that were intentional about
making a point to say that they did not want
to support Donald Trump.
But, and I do think that this is where the
Biden money advantage becomes really important.
It is not a fatal complete that these voters will
then go out and vote for Joe Biden.
He has to go get those votes.
He has to convince them to come out and that's
going to take time.
But and it definitely takes a fair amount of money
to sort of hold their hand through this election cycle
for the next six months.
But if I'm Nikki Haley,
what I'm doing is looking at whether or not those
voters actually do come out in November because of the
people that voted for me and wanted to send a
message still come out and vote.
That's actually a not a bad platform to start
2028 campaign for president, especially if she's talking to donors
now.
Don't know if it'll happen,
but you know, candidates always want to leave their options
open.
And I think this may be a sign that she's
leaving that door open.