He's kind enough to join us now.
So, Ken, great to see you again.
Thanks for having me. So you had your doubts about
Donald Trump.
You said you would prefer to write your wife's name
in rather than vote for him.
But something changed. Well, my concern with
Donald Trump was what he engaged in retribution for four
years.
I think he proved that with what he had to
say.
After Saturday night,
I'm hoping, I'm expecting he's going to preach unity and
come together and all the greatness of America when we
worked together for a 'cause when when America puts itself
together for something,
don't nothing stops us.
What I saw Saturday night was a great World War
Two general by the name of McAuliffe.
You remember the Germans asked him to surrender and he
said nuts.
What Trump did on Saturday night with that fist pump.
Amazing
me if I was virtually
damn near dead that close,
I'd have been pleading Get Me Out of here and
Get Me Out of here.
This is exactly the opposite.
He wanted to go back to the podium.
Yeah. I would have never gotten up,
period. No, no, no, no.
But that's that proves something to you,
right. And the way he's behaved,
he was like a lot of what he's at the
the reaching out and also the fact that he's changed.
He's going to change his speech on Thursday night
to be one of unity and come together.
Look, when America pulls together with no matter what of
our political differences or spiritual differences,
whatever they are, when we get together,
there's no stopping us. Nothing will stop us.
And the fact that he is having Nikki Haley,
well, that was that was it.
Santis make a speech and Vivek Verma Swami and that
you know,
his VP, he's a guy was very critical of him.
That's not holding a grip.
Let me let you in on a little secret.
My dear friend Dan Luft can arrange for him and
me to go down to see Nikki Haley.
And I want to go down to see her.
I wanted to see her.
I know Dan wanted to go along and I want
to see her
because I wanted to ask her if she could put
aside
the vitriol and all the
animosity or or the bad words between them
and campaign for I was hoping,
frankly, that he she might have a shot at being
being his running mate.
Her father passed away and of course
she had to cancel. But I think for the fact
that somebody reached out to her and said,
not only do we want you here,
we want you to speak.
That's good stuff. And, you know,
the former president rightly, wrongly gets that rap that he's
on a vendetta tour,
that he's vindictive, that he holds a grudge
In the four instances I mentioned.
Didn't, didn't, didn't. He also said something else.
He said I'm going to be vindictive after I said
my concern,
which, by the way, he made it a point,
I guess, to tell you he didn't like me anymore.
But I hope people don't.
Oh, it's all right. I'm used to it.
I'm used to it, Neil,
you know, but but I hope he likes me again
anyway.
But that's besides the point.
The fact of the matter is he said
retribution will come by my having a successful term.
Pretty good. Yeah. And I believe that.
And he's indicated right now,
I think right now that Saturday night is the beginning
of an opportunity for him
to call up a very significant place in history.
And I'll tell you why.
One guy that ought to be really impacted by
Trump's performance Saturday night.
If I was a Putin across the table from him,
I'd say, hey, I better not bluff or I better
not think.
This guy won't pull the trigger.
This guy'll pull the trigger.
He's proved that Saturday night.
You know, let me ask you about that because
I've always believed that people who deal with serious stuff,
even serious illnesses or, you know,
just brushed up. We're going to endorse Kearns Goodwin talking
about
former presidents who've dealt with this and survived it,
you know, the Teddy Roosevelt.
And of course, you know,
we all remember with Ronald Reagan that it is life
defining and changing.
Now, I'm no psychologist, I'm no expert,
but I I certainly saw it in the
president's demeanor and the way he comported himself.
That was pretty scary stuff.
Absolutely. And by the way,
two things quick one,
the Secret Service, do they realize that five or six
of their men were at risk because of their lack
of following up on a very obvious think of that
those kids, God bless those guys.
They threw themselves on Trump's body that if a bullet
came,
they'd get it first, then me,
it might not go. But before they didn't knock him
down,
he,
oh, he went down. No,
no, he went down. The second thing,
Neil, we're throwing the word democracy around left and right
all over.
One of the principal cornerstones of
a democracy is a free and objective press.
This press for the last two years at least,
unless they were blind, didn't see the obvious signs of
Biden's limitations, cognitive limitations. And to cover it up,
don't tell me before you were started Salt Saturday,
did that debate make you think I got to?
But that was that debate was made it so obvious
that they couldn't hide it anymore.
But the point I'm making is don't tell me about
democracy unless you do your part.
The media has a strong responsibility and a democracy to
disseminate information
and as objective and pot.
You want to have an opinion.
That's what the op-ed pages are for.
Write whatever you want there.
But when I read that,
when I read the Saturday Journal,
the inside go, I know one thing.
Those are opinions that a people are stating based on
their interpretation of the facts.
When I go to the front page of the Wall
Street Journal,
I expect facts.
Let me ask you this.
You talk about how things and the winds have changed
for Donald Trump,
and you hope the goodwill lasts.
They're already seeing sign on
both sides that there's no,
well, Biden. I don't know if you heard Biden try
to explain what he meant when he said put a
bull's eye on his back.
Yeah, I'm not allowed to swear.
But if I could, you know what I'd say.
All right now he said he didn't.
Why? Why I can't swear is why I wouldn't be
able to go home tonight.
What? What should stop? But,
you know, there are the little bit of the name
calling on both sides.
It resumed a little bit,
some of the speakers. Yeah,
exactly. So I don't know where you draw the line,
but apparently a lot of very rich guys like yourself,
Ken, from Elon Musk to Bill Ackman to Ken Griffin
to Doug Leone, I could go on and on,
have now said. And some of them were not big
fans of Donald Trump.
But to a man or woman,
they said Saturday, change them.
Yes, me too. I saw bravery there.
I saw bravery born from
rank stupidity.
26 minutes before the shot was fired,
people were pointing up
26 minutes. What would you do with the Secret Service
on that?
That's clearly about you. I'm not blaming the entire agency.
I'm not blaming the men.
I know one thing right now,
what would you do? Hedge would roll
Hedgewood. So the head of the Secret Service.
What about Homeland Security
Alejandro mayor and I'll tell you what's overseas that did
you get rid of him Who Alejandro mayor because he's
the Homeland Security.
He's an idiot. Pardon me,
he's an idiot. Of course I would have gotten rid
of him.
I would have gotten rid of 3,000,000 into the into
the
illegal immigration not 10 million.
But the bigger Neil, the bigger thing is
at risk. Were their colleagues,
were they? These guys are supposed to be a banned
of buddies together.
The people that didn't do that job,
do they realize that their their comrades were at risk?
Because if he'd got another show very different,
we'd be talking on something very different.
But isn't it sad anyway?
Well, thank you, my friend.
Good seeing you. Thank you for having me try to
break out of your shell.
I'm seeing a psychiatrist twice a week.
He assures me I'm making progress.
Well, I don't know. No.
If I saw a psychiatrist,
he needed to see a psychiatrist.
Ken, thank you very much.
Zach States is mine.